Talk:Quebec

"Lower Quebec" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Lower Quebec has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 18 § Lower Quebec until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 05:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

What the hell is up with the missing accent?

Not spelling the name of the province "Québec", with an accent aigu, is simply erroneous. I thought Wikipedia wasn't supposed to push errors as fact? LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 22:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

English spelling for English Wikipedia. Meters (talk) 00:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

English spelling is improper, whether this is the English Wikipedia or not. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 00:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Says you. Meters (talk) 01:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

This has been discussed before, and the article follows WP:CANFRENCH and MOS:CANADA Meters (talk) 01:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

English Wikipedia uses the common names found in English. The French Wikipedia follows the same pattern, using the common names found in French. For example, the articles on the French Wikipedia for Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and British Columbia all use the common French names, although none of those provinces are officially bilingual, and the English forms are used by the governments of those provinces: Colombie-Britannique, Île-du-Prince-Édouard, Nouvelle-Écosse, and Terre-Neuve-et-Labrador. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:41, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Piffle. I didn’t realize that the Wikipedia system would automatically redirect those French links to the equivalent English article. How do I insert links to the French articles that don’t get redirected? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Like this: fr:Colombie-Britannique Indefatigable (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

I'll try: fr:Colombie-Britannique, fr:Île-du-Prince-Édouard, fr:Nouvelle-Écosse, and fr:Terre-Neuve-et-Labrador. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

The website of the Canadian government [1] uses Quebec in its English version and Québec in its French version, this means that Quebec is not only the Canadian English common name but also the Canadian English official name. Kenneth Kho (talk) 19:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Seni-protected edit request

In the geography section, for the first sentrance, please change “ Quebec occupies a territory nearly three times the size of France or Texas” to “Quebec is the largest province by area in Canada”. The source provided there does not even mention Texas. 2600:100C:A218:9A7B:543B:670A:CC3:3375 (talk) 20:53, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

•  Done. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Atlantic and Arctic Oceans???

@FrancSoisD and Freshacconci: I'm not sure Quebec is "flanked by" any oceans. Am I missing something? Magnolia677 (talk) 19:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I reverted the changes strictly because of the note about discussing changes. Better to keep things as is until consensus is found. Otherwise, I'm not certain. Does being flanked by Ungava Bay mean it cannot also be flanked by the Atlantic which is just right there. The article on Labrador for example states that it is on the Atlantic Ocean, but between the Atlantic and Labrador is the Labrador Sea. For a general introduction, positioning Quebec geographically along the Atlantic makes more sense to non-specialists than just the more obscure Ungava Bay. Not sure about the Arctic Ocean, as that seems to be further way. In either case, this is outside my area of knowledge. freshacconci (✉) 20:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Freshacconci & @Magnolia677, by many geographers' views, Quebec isn't flanked by / adjacent to any actual oceans.

Regarding the Atlantic Ocean, Quebec's eastern maritime regions are contiguous to the Gulf of St. Lawrence, yet separated from the Atlantic by the islands of Newfoundland, St. Paul and Cape Breton. For a ship leaving the province, the ocean is only accessible through the straits of Belle Isle, Cabot and Canso (small vessels only). The north-eastern Quebec part of the Labrador peninsula is also separated from the Atlantic Ocean by the Labrador side of the peninsula, as well as Nunavut's Resolution Island, which somewhat "encloses" the strait at its eastern end, hence separating it from the Labrador Sea. From the north of the province, a ship would have to go through the Strait of Hudson to access the Labrador Sea (which could effectively be considered as part of the Atlantic Ocean, since it isn't enclosed on its south side connecting with the ocean).

Regarding the Arctic Ocean, a widely accepted definition is that its southern limit lies on the Arctic Circle. Yet other definitions exist, but some of them can be contested as they're not coherent with how oceans are usually defined. For instance, no geograph would ever consider the Caribbean Sea to be part of the Atlantic, since a barrier of islands marks the separation between both bodies of water. Same shall apply to the Arctic archipelago. FrancSoisD (talk) 10:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Unfair removal of my edits

@Nikkimaria Why have you been deleting my edits? Wrobeli (talk) 11:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Wrobeli, your edits introduced many grammatical errors. For example, you wrote that "The traditional Quebecois cuisine descend from 16th-century French cuisine, the fur trade and a history of hunting. Quebec's cuisine has also been influence by learning from First Nation, and in addition to that by English cuisine and by American cuisine." "Cuisine" is a singular noun so "descends" as previous is the correct form of the verb; the cuisine has been "influenced", not "influence"; and "in addition to that" is unnecessary in the middle of a three-item list. Similar issues occur across pretty much all of the changes you proposed. Additionally you proposed the insertion of an image demonstrating clog dancing, but the image does not well illustrate that concept - the dancers' feet are not visible. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Nikkimaria. The article is written in Canadian English according to Canadian conventions, since the topic at hand is related to Canada. Indeed, that appears to be the standard upheld across all Wikipedia articles, the word "Center" as it would appear in an article about New York would appear as "Centre" in an article about Alberta.

With that being said, this is the Wikipedia article about the province of Quebec. The edits I proposed conform to the way that English is often spoken in Quebec, I am not from Quebec although having spent a great deal of time there I can confirm. Endings like "nds" and "ced" are often replaced by "nd" and "ce". It would be more fitting for the article on Quebec to be written in the Quebecois dialect of Canadian English. Wrobeli (talk) 10:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

It's appropriate for the article to be written in formal Canadian English rather than trying to replicate a spoken dialect. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Also, Quebec English doesn't throw basic grammar out the window - especially in written English. If there's a particular conjugation that's of debate, let's see a source of the usage from something like the Montreal Gazette. Nfitz (talk) 20:45, 12 January 2025 (UTC)